The album wars: Mariah Carey vs. Madonna

24 08 2009

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Mariah Carey has pushed back her album to make room for a second single and now she is going head-to-head with Madonna. Mariah had to postpone Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel to ready up a ballad single and to avoid messing up Whitney Houston’s comeback. Meanwhile, Madonna fans are quick to point out that “Obsessed”  was a flop because it peaked at #11 and didn’t break the top 10 completely omitting the fact that Madonna last three singles didn’t even break the top 50. “Celebration” is currently sitting pretty at glorious and successful #71. Madonna wishes she has an “Obsessed” position. You know she loves commercial success no matter how much she compromises her musical integrity.

That being said, Mariah will most probably beat Madonna to the top spot. I am not saying that because I am a lamb, but because of hard facts. Firstly, Mariah is releasing a full-length album, Madonna is releasing another one of her greatest hits packages. Second, Mariah will have two singles on radio when the album comes out and Madge only has one single that is having fun dancing around the club charts only. Thirdly, Mariah can show her arms on the cover of her album, Madonna can’t (if she wants to shift copies). Finally, nobody wants to listen to “Vogue,” “Like A Virgin” or “Material Girl” anymore.

I am so glad Mariah moved it to that date. I bet Madonna is squirming in her yoga class right about now.

Still, Madonna fans, don’t cry! You have the UK charts to look forward to. That’ll make you happy. Now watch how many queens will get so antsy about this post…


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24 08 2009
joe to hell

i cant believe anyone cares about the charts.

24 08 2009
loft965

Madonna does!

19 10 2009
abdullah

lol really madonna does ? really could you please tell me who’s quote is this ” buy my new album memoirs …. lets make it number one ,,, you can buy it at amazon , bestbuy etc. , I Have nothing against mariah i love her and her music but you need to base your posts on FACTS not a bunch of bullshit

24 08 2009
Adnan

Lambs are nasty :-D

And Mariah’s success is and will always be limited, just like her influence and talent (just the voice… that’s it).

24 08 2009
loft965

snap!

24 08 2009
ceebo

its funny how many times mariah has gotten cold feet and how many times shes had to go back and retweek her album to ready it up for a “ballad release.” Shes not avoiding whitney’s release because she doesnt want to mess up her comeback, shes just AVOIDING it period! Lambs can be so blinded, or should i say deafened….secondly i dont think its any big feat trying to beat out a compilation release thats been released several times before.
Maybe everyone should just come to terms with it and call the the album Imperfect.

24 08 2009
loft965

Mariah never had to retweek an album for a ballad release. Go back and tell me where you got that from.

24 08 2009
ceebo

ps..its also funny how you as a musicologist blogger use chart statistics only when its advantageous. You out of all people should know that the number of records sold does not merit an artist. 90 percent of the musicians you feature on your blog never come close to the top ten…does that question their merit?
when your comparing mariah and madonna, its obvioulsy clear. madonna has and will create memorable and classic music, which will be relevant 50 years from now. I dont think i can say the same for Mariah. Good voice though…

24 08 2009
loft965

Eat me dry. Mariah’s music will be relevant 50 years from now. At least you don’t have to pop a party pill to like Mariah’s music. “Hero” will stay. “My All” will stay. “We Belong Together,” too. Many more.

The day I see Mariah on the top spot and Madonna at #2. I will post a video of me just laughing at your face. Haha!

24 08 2009
ceebo

i dont know what a party pill is but if i did, i would definatly not pop it during hero, maybe “my all” and we “belong together” remixed…or maybe “my all” during sex while pill popped.

24 08 2009
loft965

What if you are having a glass of vino? Mariah would be more apt, no?

24 08 2009
Adnan

Ceebo is my hero…

And honestly, Madonna cared once upon a time (Hard Candy) about the US market and considered at some point Mariah Carey as a competition (Ray Of Light vs. Butterfly… yes yes both a relevant albums for both artists), but Madonna realized that Mariah holds no competition against her, and that the US is not as relevant and influential as before and compared to the rest of the universe. The awful truth Mariah doesn’t want to hear.

24 08 2009
loft965

The US brings in the money. Madonna adores cash.

24 08 2009
Adnan

True.

Just like Mariah adores shopping @ LV like the embodiment of nouveau riche that she is and in fact dedicating a whole video for it! :-\

However, the rest of the world has more money than the US now!

24 08 2009
joe to hell

LV paid her for it – but didnt put her in their ad campaigns! someone else got that…

just to be clear on this chart thing, i dont think madonna cares about a chart position on a greatest hits record, especially since it is an obligation LP to get done with warner.

as we all know, i deplore mariah. but i have to say – to compare them is pointless…they have different audiences (mostly) and one is almost a decade ahead in her career…. your beloved monkey woman will also struggle to sell records when she is 51.

but if we must compare – again, pointless – the real mark of success in 2009 is TOURING. money is not to be had from record sales AT ALL. on that mark, miss ciccone kicks major ass.

i wish the wars would stop – ones r&b, one’s pop.

24 08 2009
loft965

One’s hot, one’s not.

24 08 2009
joe to hell

one’s fat
one’s thin

24 08 2009
loft965

One loves us, one uses us

24 08 2009
KerriePateTheGreat

Newsflash: the record industry as a whole is failing due to music piracy. Everybody knows that music sales have continued to fall in recent years, and that filesharing is usually blamed. In 1998, pirate sales made up 33% of global music sales and has only continued to rise since that time. So just how reliable and accurate are the charts in the US or the UK anyway when it comes to gauging a real fan base or commercial success? Bottom line is both divas each have their own merits and unique talents (or sole talent, as in the case of Mariah) to share with the universe. Mad props to both for having the chutzpah to continue to do what they do best in such a fickle and cutthroat industry!

24 08 2009
ceebo

lv is the mcdonalds of fashion..i dont know why we keep even bringing it up. im not to happy about the madonna adds either, but she did it as a favor for one of her close friends, marc jacobs (creative director for LV). can you even imagine mariah in an add??? besides that weird butterfly scent she came out with (available at walmart and other fine establishments) mariah and high fashion dont equate, mariah and high anything dont equate, scratch that…high vocals. maybe she should dial up kimora lee for baby phat.

lets just end the drama..as joe said, ones wannabe r&b and ones pure pop.

24 08 2009
loft965

Mariah’s on her 4th perfume, Ceebo. Get your facts straight. And it was not butterfly it was M. The END.

24 08 2009
shle896

Mariah Carey of course will be higher on the charts because the only kind of music that make the charts are Hip-Hop and rap.

Mariah bores me to tears.

And who says the charts mean anything anyway? Personally, I never buy physical cd’s and never buy my music files from iTunes, but from a variety of different sites. And nobody can measure how many people are playing their files or sharing them for that matter.

And I don’t know what charts your going by, but Madonna’s “4 Minutes” song made it to the Top 5.

24 08 2009
loft965

“4 Minutes” is four singles away. Madonna uses me to tears.

25 08 2009
Cheezles

the US market is the hardest market to crack, i know this cos i’m from Australia, everyone aspires to top the charts in the US so why do ppl degrade MC’s achievements and say she can only sing like thats a bad thing last i checked she was a singer, what the hell else she suppose to do, wear liatards n shake her ass on stage and speak with a fake british accent? promote kabbalah and steal african kids? we’ll leave that to the corps i mean madge

25 08 2009
joe to hell

i cant believe no one has said how her people alter the pricing on her product in order to get higher sales tallies. thats an actual fact and has been well documented

regardless, as an american, i can say we have HORRIBLE taste and elevate only the most banal, shallow garbage

25 08 2009
Betty

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25 08 2009
Adnan

You wanna see Mariah Carey in an ad…

http://stylenews.peoplestylewatch.com/2009/08/20/exclusive-first-look-mariah-careys-forever-fragrance-campaign/

ABSOLUTE DISGUST (that should the title of her collaboration with Absolute Vodka, if they ever do collaborate!).

And honestly LOFT965…
Accept the facts.
Not for us, but for the mere reality of them.

Mariah is expiring soon. Madonna is still half way.

25 08 2009
loft965

Ha ha! you wish!

7 09 2009
Trevor

Who cares, Madonna has now the 2nd biggest grossing tour ever! and the biggest by a solo artist, so i think she has topped the money making list out of her and mariah, mariahs album isnt going to make her the money that madonnas tour has done. Madonna isnt as big in the states we all know that anyway, but celebration will probably do better in the rest of the worlds charts, even if it is a greatest hits, Add to the sales of the dvd, and madonnas laughing!

7 09 2009
loft965

shush!

19 09 2009
Laura

SHITdonna stinks!!!

Flopped cow.

Mariah all the way, baby.

18 10 2009
markus

we cant compare a studio album to a greatest hits album release. I mean it is expected that Madge’s greatest hits is just her farewell tribute to Warner. So the focus of sales on both queens will be on Mariah’s “Imperfect…”

and guess what. Memoirs is a disappontment on both fans and critics alike. The two singles released recently, Obsessed and I want to know what the fuck is both didnt do well for an artist wh’s been claiming to be the biggest female superstar on the US Charts. Well well well, now let me see. If both singles plunges down, does this mean she aint doing any tours like her last album?

1 week of release = 165K
2 week of release = 70K

how bout the 3rd week? and so on? and she’s not doing any better out the US. inthe UK charts she’s not even close to 100K

bottomline
goodbye mariah.

and for MADONNA, sh’s kinda like doing an album with LIVE NATION. The one that’s been buzzing all over the Planet, she might include a tribute song for Michael Jackson and maybe a collaboration with Janet (maybe). She will bring back the hype of Pop.

Long Live her Madgesty

18 10 2009
markus

hey guess what Madonna’s Celebration has sold more than 2 million worldwide according to Guy O Seary!

great job!
how bout imperfect?

18 10 2009
markus

sour pussy

tsk tsk tsk. go ask ur fellow lambs to support the fat lady on the charts

18 10 2009
markus

it’s quite a surprise for a greatest hits album to chart at the top on most countries like Canada, Italy, and even make it to the top 10 on the US Albums. To tell you the truth i thought Celebration is just another “Glitter”, har har har. But surprisingly it’s doing wel compared to Impercfect and even Paramore’s new album.

How’s that as a parting gift of the Queen to Warner. I think everybody’s more focused on the Revolver track, a lot say it’s a sexy-freaky hip-pop song. Cant wait to see it chart.

18 10 2009
markus

as it turns out Celebartion has sold 2.7 million worldwide as of oct 9

Memoirs of an Impecfect pig has sold only 780K worldwide as of oct.9 as well

now who’s FLOP now Laura whore!

tremendously surprising for a greatest hits album beating the crap of a memoirs flopsina bitch!

18 10 2009
markus

Funny how some jerklambs consider mariah’s music will still be remembered 50 years from now, and how some dork lambs would even post how mariah will be on top while madonna would settle at #2.

well as for you, for now MADONNA is # 1 and we are all laughing at your futuristic crystal ball crap. how can anyone remember My All compared to “CRAZY FOR YOU”, and Hero was only remembered because of the 911 incident, how’s that compared to “VOGUE” it was even used as a track for the smash movie Devil wears Prada. “We belong together” 50 years from now? heck no one can even remember the lyrics compared to MADONNA’s ‘Like a virgin” ( 20 years and still is relevant even to Britney Spears)

I’ll say no one can say who will be on top for the Female. heck MADONNA even beaten Aretha Franklin, Barbra Streisand, Cher, Donna Summer who’s years ahead of her, and until now mariah who’s years behind Madonna can’t even beat her on most charts, well excpet for the US singles ut then again MADONNA is the obly Music Artist with the MOST US BILLBOARD TOP 10’s. more than the Beatles, Elvis and MJ.

so 50 years from now is crap. today is more clear…MADONNA is at the TOP
2. barbra streisand
3. celine dion
4. britney spears
5. beyonce
6. lady gaga
7. alicia keys
8. mariah carey

now that’s in order…

18 10 2009
loft965

Someone’s obsessed. And delusional…

30 12 2009
maya

mariah is the sunshine we can see.she’s the ocean we can touch,& she’s the sky above us.what is madonna she’s nothing but a woman who’s ready to end her life.i understand we all respeck her but i wouldn’t right after if she respeck mariah & take back all the stuff she said on youtube about her then i will respeck her.mariah is the girl,if any one wants to say something bad or mean about her just say it in her face.i love mariah then every celebrities but rihanna.rihanna is above everyone but michael jackson.michael jackson is the best.

24 01 2010
joe to hell

HEY – maybe you should update this now! give us the facts worldwide after all this time

24 01 2010
loft965

why are you still on this post?

24 01 2010
joe to hell

was cleaning out the mailbox….

25 01 2010
loft965

lol. ok.

24 08 2009
loft965

LV paid her for it…

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